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Post by Roger on Aug 19, 2014 9:03:29 GMT -7
Alright, this discussion is jumping off of the time skip idea. The short version is that the Peerless will survive such a jump as will the main Marcus Lee plot. Many of the old threads will be accepted into the new story as Peerless canon so we don't have to rewrite the same old shit and can pick up with the story as we left it. Meanwhile we'll be cutting the stuff we don't want (i.e. Achilles) and tweaking other parts to improve them. Long Version:First, we're going to be redoing the very first thread, i.e. how Roger gets the ship. We did a pretty decent job shoehorning it into our pre-existing story but it still didn't make tons of sense. Now with a blank slate we can specifically write our characters for the Peerless. With that in mind, Roger already is the captain of the Peerless when the story starts and he has been for years. That means that the Lee job is just a job with a big pay check at the end. Onas doesn't just find this random guy he kind of knew years ago and gives him a ship, a crew, tons of money, all this gear, etc. So, about five years ago, there was some somewhat minor war between Roger's planet and some other planet. Roger's planet needs more ships to fight the war so they go to the Syndicate where you can get ships fast and on the cheap. So, the Peerless was bought FIVE YEARS AGO from the Syndicate and Roger has been the captain this whole time. He fought in the war as a privateer but then the war ended and he still had the ship. So, naturally, when there is no privateering stuff to do for his homeworld he simply does mercenary work. This means that Roger also has a crew for his ship. When we get the Lee job, the Syndicate might send us a few guys and we might pick up more crew along the way, but like the failed SWRP idea, some other people have been on the ship for years, a real crew instead of a jumbling of people who just met. The Peerless itself is slightly different too. I might remodel the inside a bit, but most notable it can really fight. In this new timeline there is no Alliance to restrict military grade weaponry. The ship was also originally purchased for a war, and Davis has commanded it for the past five years and could have easily upgraded and improved it to his liking. Bottom line: we've got guns. Alright, so what does that mean? 1) Get excited and start thinking about the Peerless again! 2) Dust off those old characters. 3) Pay particular attention to your character's joining the ship since you now could have been on the ship for upwards of five years. Comments, suggestions about the ship, random responses, etc. always welcome.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 10:51:09 GMT -7
I'm all ready to go-- once I figure out if I'll stick with Ros or swap her out for Sam.
It's a tough decision. Leaning towards keeping Ros atm. For the plot I already had.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 11:20:19 GMT -7
Ready to assemble and continue on your mark Sir! Keepin Vitale as is!
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Post by Roger on Aug 24, 2014 19:02:05 GMT -7
Well, Gunn/Keller and Vitale will still have the same basic origin story. Desmond, Ros and/or Sam, and whoever else shows up probably will not. If we do Ros, keep in mind that her recruitment was through a past connection with Roger... which might not be there anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 20:34:40 GMT -7
It could still be there-- just different-ish. She could have still been the one to patch him up if you're staying with the false fingers. And if there's no Alliance POW camp it might have been she just merc'd herself out as a medic in the conflict. And learned some combat from it.
Sam's past is gonna have to just change from the Uni war to another conflict she got caught up in as a kid. Then can either be a new hire or an old one depending. She'll be a bit younger, too, but not by much.
I think what I just need to show is that Ros is a combat medic and we only did one job so far. Because it feels like you're all worried I won't do nothing when we only had one op so far! Kick all your asses.
Aaaand if it is different, we can come up with something else. Either she was on the ship longer, or whatever. But I kinda liked how she got introduced.
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Post by Roger on Aug 25, 2014 6:35:25 GMT -7
I meant that such ideas should be expanded upon in this thread, chief among them whether you want to be a new hire or have been on the ship for awhile.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 7:15:08 GMT -7
Ohright. Uuuuh. I kinda like how she got on recently, but because I liked the thread. I'm open to ideas, though. Whatever makes sense.
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Post by Roger on Aug 25, 2014 9:52:06 GMT -7
Well, if it's a merc ship and we would ever have need for a medic then we would have picked one up earlier in our five year run, right? So either Ros's recruitment needs to be much earlier in time or previous unnamed medic needs to meet an unfortunate fate lol.
The CliffsNotes on my new bio is that Davis was in the Verbena army and got wounded which earned him a discharge from the regular military. However he still wants to fight blah blah blah and gets back into the war this time as a privateer, not military but still fighting for the cause. Then the war ends and he continues with this ship he picked up and the rest is Peerless history.
He would never have been a POW but he was wounded at one point, so maybe we can shoehorn Ros in just as a medic who treated him... once before shipping him back to a hospital (I see Ros as a front line type, not a hospital type so the lionshare of his treatment wouldn't be with her). The problem there is that whatever war it was wasn't 'Verse-wide like the Unification War. Ros and Roger would have to be from the same planet or from nearby planets that were allied/controlled by the same power. Ros is from Beaumonde, right? When I think about likely enemies in this unnamed war I think Beaumonde as a rival to Verbena in Kalidasa. So, yeah, that complicates things.
Now, if the war history doesn't work out but we still want them to have history then there are 5 years of merc time that can account for that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 10:16:47 GMT -7
So a couple of possibilities. One being she was hired on in the last five years. Still could've been a medic before her who either died or got off because fuckthisship or something. Or she got on when it started. Or more recently like the original plot. Then with her history it's either they never crossed paths, or they did in some way. Ros was only from Beaumonde from 14 onwards. She wasn't really loyal to any planet because she was born vesselside. And when she went off to (original timeline) join the war, she picked a side based on who took her first. It was all to get that taste of action. She's very neutral, so could have been she took to travelling around a little before that and just happened to get caught up in the conflict. Medic being a useful thing, she might have hired herself out. Maybe ended up in a frontline MASH unit.
Right now, I'm wondering what to change. I'm thinking about if I want to do an overhaul of the section of Ros's history that involves the war/conflict part and changing it to something else. Like it was just a huge Beaumonde gang war that earned her experience, so no prior interaction with our bucket-toting Captain, but then hired on in the last few years.
Still a fan of that quote saying "I didn't recognise you until you were covered in someone else's blood" haha.
I'm currently in an indecisive mood. I may end up doing something completely different. Was kind of a fan way back of making Ros' mother instead because I liked the character, but we need to balance out the gun-happy crazies with some sensible folks. Ros is sensible. But can hold her own.
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Post by Roger on Aug 25, 2014 10:23:02 GMT -7
Balance? Pfft! We're full blown mercs now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 10:27:12 GMT -7
Variety is the spice of life, son!
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Post by Roger on Aug 25, 2014 10:35:47 GMT -7
Variety? You mean like .22, .32, .38, .40, .45, and .50 cal? Or something like 8mm, 9mm, 10mm? 10 GA, 12 GA, 20 GA, 28 GA, or 410? 30-30, 7.62x54R, 25-06, .223, 380? Long rifle, magnum, subsonic, wad cutter, tracer, AP, hollow point, caseless, specialty loads, etc. That kind of variety?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 10:41:27 GMT -7
Yes. Just like that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 21:24:35 GMT -7
So my two cents. I think there is this invisible line between your two ideas that seems to be "the forest for the trees." Why not have Ros fight for Davis after her gangland days on buea(important to note that the syndy is at least freindly with ros' gang peeps. they don't have to know each other, onas and ros, but just ros' boss and onas are cool enough for favors). Davis is privateering in that time, and makes some runs out to Buea for Onas and Verbena(Temporarily aligned goals of "we need ships an you got 'em").
During that time, there is a big firefight, and roger is hurt. He knows that Ros' boss is tight with onas, and on that basis, goes for help from local... eh... mob doctors. No records, no showing any nefarious activity on official records, no internationa... interplanetary incidents from sending private militia style thugs into Buea's warzone being his goal for why he didnt see a hospital that day.(whether the gang war is acknowledged as a war or not) , and Ros patches him up.
So Ros learns to patch em' up and keep em' from bleedin out! Then, later, she joins a full on mob for a short time, plenty to pick from on buea, i assure you. Five years ago, Roger picks her up after chasing this ahole down after a bar shootout, where he deliver's the famous one liner that is so epic it makes Rosiland's re-made bio as a quote, and we can skip the whole, her not being comfortable around the captain bit, and just dive into not trusting Desmond and Vitale.
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Was that too much condensed Onas?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 21:31:54 GMT -7
I have never seen you type Beau wrong so many times lol. Also, when was she not comfortable around the Captain? When he locks eyes with people as he bucket showers?
I'll put up a serious response when I'm not about to fall asleep. But will work on Ros at some point. And just see how a mix of the ideas flows.
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